[INTRODUCTION]

Hal Elrod: Hello, friends. Welcome to the Achieve Your Goals podcast. This is your host, Hal Elrod. And today’s conversation, today’s episode is going to stretch your thinking, especially when it comes to health, healing, and what is possible beyond conventional medicine. I am interviewing/talking with Jason Ward. He is a medical intuitive. Now, here’s the deal. I didn’t just discover Jason Ward as a podcast guest. I was referred to him by a personal friend who had worked with him and explained to me that Jason was able to discover things in his body that the doctors were not able to discover. And then he was able to go to his doctors and say, “This medical intuitive said that I’ve got a hernia in this part of my body. Look here,” and the doctors were able to then discover what was wrong, and then they were able to heal him.

Now, as you might be, I was skeptical, but I also trust this friend. In fact, he’s joining us in the podcast today, Jeremy Reisig. He’s my Chief Growth Officer. We’ve been friends for 20-plus years, so I know Jeremy like a brother. I love Jeremy. I trust Jeremy implicitly, and he explained to me how this medical intuitive helped him, how Jason helped him. And so, most recently I worked with Jason for the second time, and I had a wrist injury that I hurt in Jujitsu, and it was injured for a year. And I saw my traditional doctor. I went and saw a specialist, an orthopedist. No one could give me relief, and no one could heal the injury in my wrist. So, I had actually forgotten about Jason. I hadn’t talked to him for six years.

And I was telling Jeremy about the wrist injury, and he said, “Hey, have you done a session with Jason Ward to have him scan your wrist and see if he can figure out what’s wrong with it?” I said, “Oh, I completely forgot about Jason. So, this was probably a month or two ago. And so, I had a session with Jason, and he does this over the phone, by the way. I know, it sounds crazy, but you can’t argue with the results. Jason said, “Oh, I can tell you what’s wrong with your wrist, Hal.” He said, “You actually had two injuries,” and I’m not looking at my notes. I forgot what they were called, but he said, “The first one is healed. The second one is not healed. What’s causing you the pain is not the actual injury. It’s the scar tissue that is built up around the injury that’s rubbing against your wrist bone, whatever.” And he said, “That’s causing you the pain.”

He said, “So, what you need to do is, A, go back to your doctor, have them look for this particular area of your wrist where the injury is located,” and he said, “And I want you to,” he said, “Let me guess when you push on that area, it’s painful. Yes?” I said, “Yes.” He said, “You need to push through the pain, and you need to massage the scar tissue every single day and break up the scar tissue, and that will relieve your pain so you can start lifting weights again and using your wrist again.” He said, “Also, I want you to take a glucosamine supplement.” He gave me a very specific supplement. Y’all, listen to this. You can’t argue with results.

After one year seeing multiple doctors, having multiple X-rays, multiple MRIs, and having no relief whatsoever, within two weeks of massaging my wrist in the way that Jason Ward told me to do, and taking this glucosamine supplement, I was able to get 90% of my function back. It’s not 100%. Occasionally, if I twist it the wrong way, I will still feel a little pain, but I’m now lifting weights at full capacity, and I’m using my wrist again, and I don’t have pain anymore. And so, I thought, “I’ve got to introduce, I’ve got to bring Jason on. I’m curious, how does he do this? Is this a superpower? Is he talking to God?” And I want to say this for anyone that is like if you are a devout Christian and you’re like, “Nope, the Bible says do not listen to mediums or psychics.”

In fact, I was telling a friend, I bring this up today in the conversation with Jason. I asked him about this because I was telling a friend of mine who’s having un-diagnoseable medical issues, can’t figure out what’s wrong with him. Doctors can’t figure it out. And I said, “You’ve got to talk to Jason Ward. He’s a medical intuitive.” And my friend said, “I don’t know. I’m a devout Christian.” And he said, “The Bible says not to listen to any mediums and this and that.” And I looked up the verses in the Bible that say that. And so, I asked Jason about it today, and he says, “I’m not a medium.” He says, “I don’t hear voices.” He says, “This is more of a scientific thing that I do. I’m able to…” he goes, “I don’t know where this gift came from, but I’m able to see into someone’s body. I don’t hear voices. I don’t predict the future. I literally look into your body.”

And again, if I were just hearing that, I would say, “I don’t believe it. It’s not possible,” but you just can’t argue with someone being able to diagnose specifically what is wrong and how to fix it for, and by the way, he’s done this for thousands. I think it’s tens of thousands of people now. So, listen for yourself. I think you’ll be blown away. And most importantly, I’m sorry, I’m getting excited here. I’m not sorry, but sorry, not sorry. Jason is one of the sweetest human beings. Like, he is such a soulful, heartfelt, genuine human being. He’s a father of six. He’s got six kids. He’s a devoted husband. I think you’ll love him. He’s a sweet, sweet human being, and he’s got a gift that has helped thousands of people to get healing.

And as you’ll hear him share toward the end of the episode, one of the hardest parts is sometimes he sees things that cannot be healed and he asked to deliver heartbreaking news to people saying, “I don’t think there’s a way through this. There’s something in you. You’ve got a disease or you’ve got an illness, or you’ve got damage that is irreparable,” from his perspective and that he says is the hardest. In fact, he tears up toward the end. He says that’s the hardest thing, especially if it’s delivering news to a family about their child. But, yeah, listen to this with an open mind and an open heart, and I think you will love this episode. And if you can watch this on my YouTube channel, I highly recommend it because you’ll see Jason.

In fact, when you see Jason, he’s got a long beard. He’s really muscular. He’s got tattoos. You’ll immediately pass judgment, right? You’ll probably judge a book by its cover, as we do unconsciously or consciously. But, yeah, he’s a special human being. I hope you enjoy this episode and this conversation as much as I did. I love you so much. Here we go. Jason Ward, everybody.

[INTERVIEW]

Hal Elrod: Hey, fellas. It is so good to be with you.

Jeremy Reisig: Hello, hello.

Jason Ward: Good to be with you. Good morning.

Hal Elrod: Alright. So, Jason, you were just telling me that this is your first podcast you’ve ever done. Is that right?

Jason Ward: That is correct, my friend. Yes, ever.

Hal Elrod: And you said you’ve probably turned down at least 20 invites for podcasts.

Jason Ward: At a minimum, at least 20. Yes.

Hal Elrod: So, I got to ask, why did you say yes to me and Jeremy here?

Jason Ward: I’m an energy guy, and you guys both have really good energy, good hearts. Obviously, I’ve worked with you before, and I guess when you’re a medical intuitive, you don’t just get to see the physical forms, you get to feel the soul. These physical forms are rental cars our soul gets to use. So, to me, the soul is what made me say this feels right. So, here I am.

Hal Elrod: I like that.

Jason Ward: Thank you for having me, by the way.

Hal Elrod: Oh, yeah, man. It is an honor, and I know that you were on the Oprah Winfrey network, what, almost 20 years ago, give or take, or 15 years ago.

Jason Ward: That is correct. Somewhere in there, yeah. Memory of a goldfish, but somewhere in there.

Hal Elrod: I just want to highlight that. So, you’ve only said yes to the Oprah Winfrey Network and the Achieve Your Goals podcast. I take that as a huge compliment.

Jason Ward: That is correct, my brother. Yeah. You must be a good soul then, a good bird.

Hal Elrod: I guess so. Yeah. Despite the rental car and its mileage, yeah, the soul is there. So, I want to actually start with Jeremy. I want to ask you, Jeremy, because you, I believe, I told you about Jason years ago, when I was going through cancer.

Jeremy Reisig: 2019.

Hal Elrod: You know the year, 2019. Someone referred me. I don’t even remember, Jason. Do you remember who connected us initially?

Jason Ward: To be honest with you, I really don’t.

Hal Elrod: That’s fair. I couldn’t remember. I’m trying to remember.

Jason Ward: I work with so many people. Yeah. I’m so sorry.

Hal Elrod: It was many years ago. You and I shared the memory of a goldfish. So, I told Jeremy, you, about Jason, and then Jason helped you discover something that was undiscoverable to doctors, if you will, and he’s helped me do the same. And I had an injury, and you reminded me. You said, “Have you connected with Jason Ward on that?” And this was just a few months ago, and I went, “No, I totally forgot about Jason.” There you go, Jason, the memory. I go, “I forgot about Jason,” and I reached out to Jason. And, Jason, your advice after doctors spent a year that could not figure out what my wrist injury was. I couldn’t use my right. I kept reinjuring my right wrist. Every time I twisted open a container, lifted something, and I couldn’t lift weights, I couldn’t exercise, I couldn’t play pickleball.

And within a matter of weeks, taking your advice and your diagnosis, what the doctors and the specialists couldn’t find, I was able to get use back in my wrist. It’s not 100%, but I’d say it’s gone from 20% to probably 90%. I’m lifting weights again, and it’s a miracle. So, with all of that said, Jer, I want to hear your story because you reminded me of it today. I’ll call it the hernia story. Share that experience if you would.

Jeremy Reisig: Yeah. Great. Well, I’m happy to, and it’s just wonderful to be here with the two of you. Number one, rehashing the origin of, Hal, how you introduced me to Jason, and then all the benefits I’ve received from Jason, not only in my physical body, but in my approach to the world. So, I’m excited to share. So, Hal, you introduced me in, excuse me, 2019, and I didn’t have anything wrong going on with me then. I was just very curious about the guy who looked into your body and said that there was no more cancer left. Because that was what you had said. You said, “Yeah, I had this guy look into my body to see if there was any cancer left.” And I was like, “How is that possible? I got to check this out.”

And so, I essentially called Jason or messaged with Jason, got on his calendar, and just asked him to do a scan, an overall scan of my body. Hey, take a look at anything that’s going on and anything that… Oh, I hear that noise. You hear the noise?

Hal Elrod: Yeah, there’s a real loud scratching noise. It’s all gone. Yeah. Jason, I’m going to mute you out for a minute. There was some sort of scratching noise. All right, Jer, go ahead.

Jeremy Reisig: Keep going? Okay. So, just set up an appointment to do a scan where Jason, and I’ll let him explain what a scan is. He scanned me, and then I had him scan me, of course, over the pandemic again, and then multiple times just to check to see if my immune system was locked and loaded, ready to take on anything that came my way. Asked him extra supplements that I could use based on my body type that would be specific to me that would boost my ability to, again, fight off anything that was uncertain coming my way. And so, I really used Jason as someone to check in and get ahead of anything initially. And then I kept experiencing a plateau in my workouts for years and years.

This precedes Jason, like going back to 2008. I’ve had like a pain in my stomach when I work out aggressively. Like, I can work out, I can run, I can do yoga, but if I lift weights and I did abs hard, I would experience like a pain somewhere. And I had gone into hospitals and to doctors, emergency rooms, gotten ultrasounds, had doctors look, have them tap on my stomach like hold down by my groin, and have me cough, and all the things that would be like hernia stuff. And then, eventually, I brought that specific example to Jason. I was like, “Hey, I’m having this pain in this one specific spot, this one place. It’s very, very small, but it only happens if I do this specific thing.”

And then we looked into that spot with a great deal of granularity, and he was like, “You have an inguinal hernia,” I think is what he called it at the time. And then the doctor, they called it an umbilical hernia, and they’re essentially the same thing, roughly. And so, he identified the hernia and then said, “Hey, as you move through the medical system, which you’ll have to do in order to get this fixed, you’ll probably be met with a little bit of resistance because the doctor probably won’t be able to find it initially, and then there probably will not be an ability for the ultrasound to find it, which means it’s harder to go to the next step because the doctor and the system does not see the need for you to now get an appointment for the next tier up,” which is exactly what I had to do. I had to do extra follow-up and all that stuff.

Long story short, do the MRI, the small, tiny, less than my pinky nail hernia is identified. And then I go to a surgeon, and they fixed me up, and we did supplement routines and everything before that surgery. That was 2021. And since then, I’ve only gotten fitter and fitter and been able to go heavier and heavier and do more abs and more core, which has actually not only enabled me to work out the way I always wanted to, but it also enabled me to have less pain in my body because I wasn’t able to strengthen my core because of the hernia. And then I’ve met with him six times since then, again for check-ins on many other things.

Hal Elrod: So, what the doctors could not identify or diagnose, Jason, over the phone, if I’m not mistaken.

Jeremy Reisig: Over the phone.

Hal Elrod: Over the phone is how you identified what was wrong with me too, Jason. Over the phone, he was able to see into your body, tell you what specifically was wrong, and then how to go about it through the medical system for them to find it, because they hadn’t found it yet. And it was similar to me. They had looked at my wrist, I mean, just extraordinary by the way, Jeremy and Jason, but they had looked at my wrist for a year. I had seen orthopedists. They could not figure out what was wrong with it, and it wouldn’t heal. And, Jason, you went in. You said, “Hey, well, here’s what’s causing the pain. You had two injuries. One of them is healed, the other is not. There is scar tissue around it. What you need to do is actually break up the scar tissue by putting pressure to the point where it’s painful in that area and break up the scar tissue.” And then you told me which supplements to take, glucosamine.

But it’s wild because when I pushed on that area, it hurt. And I thought, “Well, if I push there, I’m doing more damage. That’s painful.” And so, every day, even while I was driving my car, I would just massage that area, and within a matter of weeks, I was able to lift weights again. And my doctor, he said, “Nothing’s off the table.” So, he’s open. He goes, “I believe.” But he goes, “I’m a little embarrassed that this medium intuitive could solve your medical problem when me and my favorite orthopedist could not. So, I want to start here. Jason, how did you do? Let’s just start like, how did you do it? If somebody’s listening, they go, “How could this person over the phone see into Jeremy’s body, see into Hal’s body?” What is that experience like for you?

And I’d love to know, when did it start? So, you can start wherever you’d like, but like, what are you actually doing? What are you seeing? What are you feeling? What are you hearing when you’re reading someone, when you’re scanning someone? And then I’m curious at some point to know like, when did that start for you? And how did you discover the ability?

Jason Ward: Yeah. Well, I mean to first start off, I look at it where my soul is connecting to your soul, kind of like a phone dials a phone number, if you will. And a phone call for me is just a bit more of a simplistic approach to that connection. I used to, for years, do in-persons and the problem I had was I like to pace around during my work. I like to be out in the mountains where it’s just me, nature, and you. All of my personal stuff waits for me when I get back home. So, being able to do it on the phone and pace prevents me from seeing someone’s facial expressions. Or do they roll their eyes? Do they grimace? Do they smile? And then my brain kind of goes off into thinking, “Oh, maybe I’m missing it, or maybe I’m there.”

So, to come in my own environment, my own clarity just allows me to see what’s in my head. It looks like a holographic or a 3D image, but it’s like watching a live camera view. I’m just not able to rewind or fast forward the body, if you will. So, then let’s just say if I’m looking at the heart, let’s say it’s a mitral or tricuspid valve or narrowing in an aortic arch. Even going to look at like bilirubin values in a liver, it allows me to kind of zoom in, if you will, like magnify into the area, watch every cell of our body is made up of protein. Does that protein cell look normal? Does it look abnormal? What is the white cells, lymphocytes, and leukocytes of our immune system doing as a response or no response?

So, for me, visually, it’s very mental, holographic 3D, kind of like anatomy and biology. People ask me all the time, “Do you see my shockers or past lives or get messages?” And it’s not that I don’t believe in it, but it’s just not my skillset. It’s not what I do. I’m very much science-based, physical body, organs, hormones, bone marrow. That’s just my world, which I feel quite blessed. And everyone usually asks me, “Was it a message? Did you wake up and see an angel and all these cool things?” And to be quite honest, I grew up in a very physically and sexually abusive household and a teacher finally recognized that I was in serious trouble, had my eighth broken bone in a single school year.

So, I was passed from foster home to foster home to foster home. I’d probably seen close to 94 counselors before I was out, and all of them kept saying, “The things that you’ve been through you don’t see in movies and one day you’re going to grow up and be an adult and it’s going to hit you like a ton of bricks.” And I just remember at eight, nine years old saying, “They were teachers with lessons.” And I know it sounds weird, but I feel like that there is no accidents in this and I don’t hold any anger or animosity. I just look at it as I’m a student of life, and these teachers are going to prepare me for something.

And they said, “Oh, you’re an old soul. You’re an old soul.” And I used to tell people, “Hey, I know it sounds weird, but I can see the inside of this guy’s body.” I remember on Sunday service, I’d have talks with the pastor, and he would just say, “Jason, sometimes people’s brains work a little different.” I had one of the most amazing therapists ever. He would actually take me to this little pond and sit and talk where everyone else had me in an office with video recorders, and horrifying for a small child. And he says, “I just think that you went through so much trauma that your brain just forced itself to work a little different,” and explained to me how intuition isn’t a spirituality. It’s something we’re all given. Do we trust it?

So, do we trust what comes to us first? Do we really trust that gut instinct or do we allow that human brain to kind of dissect why that’s wrong, why that can’t be? So, the minute I got the confidence in just trusting my intuition is kind of where it started from people saying, “Hey, I’m about to go on this date. Do you think this guy has any diseases that I should be aware of?” Or, “I’m going to go into this business deal, and this person seems off. Can you see, are they on any stimulants like drugs or anything like that?” So, I became a magic show. Everyone wanted me to go, “Do you think she’s pregnant?” And then they’d come back with a test and be like, “Oh my gosh, you were right.” And I remember it just didn’t feel clean to me because I thought I’m not a magic show. Like, I’m really wanting to use this to help people to the best of my ability.

And that’s when I told myself, if it is to help somebody, if it’s to help direct them, then I’ll use it all day long. But if they want me just to do the shock and awe and show me all the cool stuff, I don’t know. I don’t think that’s very genuine. That’s why my marketing approach, I have no social media, no websites. My marketing is healing people. To me, that’s the best form of marketing and the best form of service. So, of my past, to be able to do what I do today and have been for, now going on 38 years, as the adult, the grownup child, I feel like those teachers gave me some pretty ugly lessons, but life-changing lessons, and I’m blessed for it all.

So, to make a very long story short, that’s just how I believe my gift came to me, kind of thrown in a fire at a young age, brain started working as survival and fight or flight, and what’s next? And thank goodness I focused on this thing everyone said was weird, but to me it felt very natural. I thought everyone could see visions in their head or inside of people’s bodies. So, yeah, it was a wild journey but here I am.

Hal Elrod: What came to me is the movie, Rain Man, Dustin Hoffman’s character, right? And how his brain did not work like most people but somehow draw. And obviously, it was based on a real-life character. What is the… I don’t know if disease is even the right term. Do you remember what that character, what he had? Was it autism, or do you remember?

Jason Ward: I truly don’t. I truly don’t recall.

Hal Elrod: I’m also dating myself. Anybody that’s young like, “What movie? Rain Man? Who?” The one with Tom Cruise. Right. But the point is like it’s these special gifts that he had where his brain didn’t function like a normal person. He had like social anxiety, and he didn’t make eye contact, yet his brain worked in these hyper-sensitive ways. And it’s interesting, you said something that you view this more as not through a spiritual lens, if I heard you correctly, but a scientific lens. Can you unpack that a little bit?

Jason Ward: Yeah. I mean, to me, this is why I don’t like using the term medium, in my opinion. I don’t believe I receive messages. No one’s telling me what it is that I’m seeing. And the problem I have with that is, is then if somebody was wrong like myself, I would say, “Well, that’s what the Spirit told me,” and I like to own it. I’m one of the few intuitives you can prove right or wrong with testing. If I say that you have cancer, you can go do a test and prove me right or wrong. If I say you’re pregnant, you can go use one of those at-home tests and prove me right or wrong. So, I think that there’s a little bit of that credibility that has to come with the work that someone like myself does.

It’s really hard to understand it. It’s really weird to talk to someone over the phone about your health, getting your mind to understand, “Can they really see the inside of my body?” Right? And so, for me, I think the scientific side of it is, it has nothing to do with my belief system. It has everything to do with my intuition. What is it that I see? Do I trust that? Don’t allow myself to overthink it. When I trained intuitives for years, that was the hardest part for me to get across is, do you trust what comes to you first? So, when I worked with law enforcement, a lot of the things is before you guys kick down the door, what’s coming to you? Is there someone on the other side with a firearm?

So, it’s about understanding intuition. I don’t believe you have to have a certain faith to have intuition. You just have to have self-love, self-trust, and be confident in yourself that you’re going to make the right decision, that your self is guiding you too, in my belief.

Hal Elrod: It’s interesting. I had a close friend, of actually Jeremy and I’s, I talked to him the other day, and I just found out that his mom died a couple of months ago. And he and I hadn’t talked in a bit, and I did not know that. And what’s wild is his mother had dementia. And so, she’s been non-verbal for quite a while, and he saw her about a year and a half ago, and they planned on seeing her again in a couple of months. He woke up a couple of months ago, and he just got a, during his meditation, he woke up and instantly it was, “Go see your mom today.” And she lives halfway across the country, more than halfway across the country.

And so, he told his wife, he said, “Sweetheart, I’m getting on a plane today. I’ve got to go see my mom. I just got this intuitive hit that I need to go see my mom today.” And she said, “Well, we’re going to see her in a couple of months, but if you… Okay.” He got on a plane, he went and spent the entire day with his mom, and she died that night. That’s an example of, right, a skeptic would go, “Well, you can’t know that.” But it’s like I believe there’s so much more, and whether it’s spiritual, scientific, to me, they’re one and the same. It’s hard to know where one begins and one ends, but we are all capable of so much more than I think that we are aware of. And so, I love the way you explain it.

What do you say? Or I want to address the skeptics, and I think that if somebody’s listening and if they entered this podcast skeptical, I think they’re hopefully less skeptical by now. They’re like, “All right. He identified that Jeremy had a hernia when the doctors couldn’t find it. He identified Hal’s wrist injury when the doctors couldn’t find it. He told Hal how to fix it and it worked. He told Jeremy how to fix it, and it worked.” So, to me, like if you came into this skeptical, you’re less skeptical. Let me actually ask you in a different way. I was talking to a friend of mine the other day. I was telling him about you. My friend has some physical injury or issues, and doctors can’t figure out what’s wrong.

I said, “You got to talk to my friend, Jason Ward. He is a medical intuitive.” And I told him Jeremy’s story, my story. I said, “He has proven that it works.” And he goes, “I don’t know.” I said, “Well, what do you mean?” He said, “Well, as a Christian, the Bible says,” and I don’t know the exact words he used, but it was something along the lines of be wary of mediums, be wary of people that claim that they talk to spirits. And I know you said that’s not how you work. But yeah, that’s my question, I guess. If someone’s listening and they’re like, “Nope, I’ve been told that if anybody has any kind of power outside of what I know that I have, that I don’t trust it. It could be demonic. It could be, I don’t know.” So, I’d love for you to speak to that.

Jason Ward: Absolutely. Everyone has a belief in something. Whether it’s the belief in nothing or believe in multiple gods, a singular God. And I don’t think anyone’s right or wrong to tell you the truth. I’ll be the first one to admit. I’ve never heard God’s voice. I’ve never spoke to angels. I haven’t had anything that is out of this world and I’m the type of guy that I believe in aliens when I see one. That’s just me.

Hal Elrod: Yeah, that makes sense.

Jason Ward: I respect when someone comes to work with me, their first instinct is, oh, man, he’s going to go into, I have this feeling and it’s a color. And an old relative’s talking to me. And I think when they get on the phone, they realize I’m very black and white, anatomy, biology. I go into the physical body. I don’t go into the spiritual body. I may have advice, I may have outlooks, I may have views of perception of things in life to help guide somebody, but I think that’s no different than how we all should be. I think everyone on this planet is brothers and sisters. We share the same home called Earth.

Hal Elrod: Amen.

Jason Ward: And we have to have that perception, because someone may be, let’s just say Catholic, and someone may be a Buddhist. I don’t look at them as any different. They’re my brothers and sisters. They just have a perception of things a little bit different, right? And so, when you reference that Bible verse, I totally understand where that fear would come from. But again, I’m not telling somebody, divorce your wife, sell the house and move to another country. I’m not giving anybody lottery numbers. I’m not predicting love lives. I’m pretty much saying, hey, I’m of service and I’m your brother. And how can I help you? And if there’s something physically wrong, let me guide you, and not just with me free willy, I want you to go to your doctor with this. I speak your doctor’s language. We can do some tests, we can do these things.

And then you can see through a scientific or a black and white approach that I’m just helping tell you where to turn left and turn right to get to the same destination. And kind of like, when you go to doctors and your handout medications and we’re going to run the 18th test and maybe it’s in your head and I’ve worked with that so much and the person’s like, but I physically feel it. It’s not in my head. I know that there’s something wrong and I know you’ve done all these tests that showed it nothing. And for me, that’s kind of where I get my excitement is, is instead of me having to go by the system of, if you don’t do this test and if we haven’t tried these 18 medications, then you can’t go to the next step. I kind of like skipping all that part and going directly to where we need to focus.

I completely understand where that’s coming from and trust me, I’m sure you guys can tell, I’m covered in tattoos, giant beard. I’m kind of a muscular guy, so people that meet me in person wouldn’t remotely expect that I do what I do. And I love that, because of my childhood, this is the cover of my book and to be quite honest with you, it’s a confidence thing, but I’m not the child that can’t fight back or can’t get help or doesn’t know what’s coming next. I’m in full control, right? Am I a grown-up child? Yes, but I’m not who I was at nine years old or 13 years old. But it’s the pages inside that once someone gets to know, I’m just a gummy bear and I love people. I really do.

And I think that the beauty is without bad, how would we know what’s good? So, I volunteer a lot in foster homes and work with the parents and the children, and that’s what I’m trying to explain. Don’t use your experiences to do bad as an excuse, right? I got a bad deck of cards, that’s why I’m doing this. I like to look at it as that those are just teachers with the ugly lessons, like I said earlier, and I believe whether it’s God or whatever that higher power is, there’s a path and a purpose for all of us, right? It’s what we choose to do with it. You can think about it, you can process, oh, what if you could do this and that? I’m just the guy that likes to put it in action. If I think that I’m able to help somebody, I like to show up and give it 110%. And I got six kids. So, when I’m done working, I disconnect. I don’t carry anybody’s backpack. I’m dad and husband, and I don’t know, I feel like I’m living my best life. A perfect balance, right? And whoever gives me that life and opportunity, I’m extremely blessed. I’m grateful for that.

Hal Elrod: Beautifully said, and I did not know you had six kids. What are your age ranges for your six kids? How many boys? How many girls?

Jason Ward: So, our two girls are 7 and 9, and then our four boys are 14, 16, 20, and 26. So, pretty widespread, yeah.

Hal Elrod: Yeah. Oh, my gosh, that’s a real widespread family. That’s incredible, man. Six kids. And then do any of your kids have your gift or any gift similar? I’m curious, right? Yeah, that’s a curiosity for me.

Jason Ward: No, that’s a really good question. Honest, none of them do. They think what Dad does is super cool. They also think it’s super weird, and I totally get it, right? They see dad as this big strong guy that is cleaning the kitchen and likes to sing songs and wake everybody up with fun dance moves and stuff like that. But they know that when dad goes to work, it’s serious, and I’m there to help people. So, my family supports me and loves me. And that’s how I thrive every day is off of their love. It’s better than any food, water, or sleep I could ever have. And yeah, it would be cool to tell you some of my kids get to see through walls or do cool stuff, but they don’t, yeah.

Hal Elrod: It’s not the Incredibles at your house or whatever the superhero family.

Jason Ward: No. Their superpower is love, and that’s all I could ask for. I dig it. Yeah.

Hal Elrod: I love it. Let me ask you this. Are there times when you’ve been wrong? Or you’ve gotten just a fuzzy picture and you’re looking at somebody trying to scan their body, I’m not seeing anything. Maybe it’s because you’ve got a headache. Maybe it’s because you’re tired. Maybe it’s because there’s a disconnect. I’m just curious if that ever happens.

Jason Ward: That’s a good question. I don’t think anyone on this planet is perfect. And I, for certainly, am not going to say that I’m flawless or perfect by any stretch of the imagination. It’s not ego, it’s confidence. I wouldn’t be at this, this long, if I didn’t feel confident in my work and feel like I was able to help enough people, right, in order for me to raise six kids and to live an amazing life.

Back in the early two 2000s, I had worked with a girl who had gotten a rat lungworm disease in Hawaii. And that’s kind of where, like rats and rodents will crawl over, vegetation, someone goes out and let’s say eats an apple off the tree or something, for example. And what’s left behind from those rodents on the fruit gets ingested, and it’s really wicked, leaves them bedridden and horrifying symptoms. And they were sending her home to die.

And for probably our first two scans, my two sessions, I really thought it was a parasite. It was just a blood parasitosis that no one was discovering. And it wasn’t till, I’m like, gosh, but what I see in the spinal cord fluid, it just doesn’t look like a parasite to me. So, I literally begged the specialist on the phone. She got them to get on a group call with this and I said, “Please do a spinal tap because whatever this is, you’re going to find it there.”

Hal Elrod: Oh, wow.

Jason Ward: They sent her to hospice but agreed to do a spinal tap before they released her fully to hospice. And those results came back that she had rat lungworm, put her on the appropriate medication. And she’s thriving in Peru as we speak. I just got a message from her two days ago with a bunch of beautiful photos. So, that would be an example of that. I just, my brain could not understand the rat lungworm side of it, even though I could see it in the spinal cord fluid.

And probably, gosh, multiple scenarios to where I didn’t see it. And people ask me, how would you miss something? A couple things, one, I think someone has the ability to protect themselves from me. Someone comes in fearing, let’s say they really don’t want me to see the cancer. They just don’t. They don’t want to hear it. They don’t want to go through the chemo and the radiation. They don’t want to go through sharing the news with their family. So, I think it’s almost like a wall that their soul puts up and doesn’t allow me to see certain things.

Ninety percent of those that come to me really want to see something, anything. They just need help, a direction. They’re suffering, right? But you do get those, I do believe that maybe puts up that wall. And I’m not using it as an excuse. It’s just my analyzation of when something is missed, Hal.

Hal Elrod: When you think, about how many doctor, right, again, like you said, humans aren’t perfect. So, anyone in any profession isn’t going to about a thousand. You’re going to miss some things. And that is interesting what you said about, if folks don’t really want you to see or they don’t really want to know that there could be some sort of blockage, Jer, is there anything? I know you’ve worked with Jason obviously more than I have worked with him twice. You’ve, I think, done 10 sessions with him.

Jeremy Reisig: Yeah, I think 10 sessions.

Hal Elrod: Any questions that you would add or anything that you’d want to share based on your experience working with Jason?

Jeremy Reisig: Yeah. A couple of questions, one of them is how do you manage having this gift and the blessings you’re able to deliver to people along with the pain that you inevitably have to deliver to them by telling them something they don’t want to hear, even though the 90% who are open? How do you, number one, manage delivering it? Because it’s sad, maybe they get angry. And then also then, how do you, as you said, not take the backpack home with you? How do you not carry that with you into your family life and then into your next day and into your next appointment, and then you yourself feel pain?

Jason Ward: It’s such a beautiful question. I can tell you, guys, forgive me, but telling their family, their kid, I don’t see a route through it. I can’t explain to you guys what kind of a pain that is. It’s like your heart gets ripped out of your chest. It’s something, and maybe it’s because I’m a father myself. I just don’t know how to explain to you that type of pain because my job is to help and when I know that there’s an old route through it, that there’s an expiration date on those carton of eggs. Forgive me guys, I’m sorry. You do your best to prepare, you do your best to say it in the most light, humble, kindest way that you possibly can, but it has to be the truth. People don’t come to me to sugarcoat things. I’m not a guy that’s going to mislead. I’m not going to lie. I shoot from the hip.

So, I believe that you say the truth, but you also give that space to allow them to mourn and people to yell at you and to get mad and to be angry and to go, I just spent this money and time with you and you’re telling me there is no solution. The most challenging piece of my work is disconnecting. And when people go, oh, can I email you a question? Do you don’t remember our session? I go, I promise you, I put in a valiant effort to forget and to leave that where I was working. That’s why I like going to the mountains. I try to tell myself, I’m leaving this here. I cannot take it home with me.

I believe humans are energetically sensitive. Someone’s in a bad mood, they can come into a room, don’t have to say a thing, and I think you can feel it, right? So, I’m very aware that I want my family, my friends, my community to feed off of happy Jay, loving Jay, the guy that sings songs and likes to dance and make jokes and look at a flower and a tree and go, just stop and look how incredible this is. So, to be able to leave that there is not just for my family, it’s for myself because there were so many years I went to bed at night tossing and turning and couldn’t sleep and would take notes at like three in the morning because I’m like, maybe there’s a route, like, if we went through this stage.

And then, you also battle up against a community full of liability. There’s amazing specialists and doctors, and they are absolutely angels walking this earth. They really are. They dedicate themselves, and the hours and the time they put in is mind-boggling, right? But even they’re held back to saying, but if insurance can’t approve this test or if they don’t approve this and then we’ve got to refer you, and a lot of people get upset, and I absolutely get it, but they’re kind of having to follow a system, right? And it boils down to liability, which is sad. I wish every specialist had the freedom to look at their patients as their own children because if my child was in that position, there is no liability, there is no rules, there is no laws, there is no, you can’t. It would take a force out of this planet to stop me from doing what I felt was necessary. And I just wish the medical community had a little bit more of that power to do what they knew was the right way of going about it instead of the red tape and the paperwork.

Hal Elrod: Well, and I love…

Jason Ward: So sorry, that was long-winded but beautiful.

Hal Elrod: No.

Jason Ward: Thank you. Thank you.

Hal Elrod: And Jason, I appreciate that you work with the medical community, right? You’re not saying, all right, Hal, here’s what I discovered. So, go meditate and drink green juice and heal yourself. I mean, that’s part of it. You will recommend natural things, but you go, hey, go tell your doctor what I found, and then work with your doctor. And here are the things that I think that you can do as well. That’s how I approached my cancer journey, was like, I’m going to combine the best of western allopathic medicine and the best of holistic, natural protocols that I can to heal my body because I think there’s wisdom in both. If somebody wants to work with you, do you have a website? How do they find you? How do they learn more about you?

Jason Ward: I really do, I can share a link with you to my booking calendar. I’m just a behind-the-scenes kind of guy. Like you mentioned, the Oprah Winfrey Network, I was begged for a really long time, but the gentleman at the time who designed all the outfits for Dancing with the Stars, I basically had worked with his rheumatologist, his specialist, and then when he basically got it treated and with things, I don’t want to get too personal with his story, but long story short, that’s how they reached out and I was so opposed to it. But everyone said, hey, I think you can help a lot of people and know that what you do isn’t weird and that it is science-based and it’s not woo-woo, and you’re not at a state fair with a little ball trying to tell people things that they can’t really go determine.

So, the link unfortunately is kind of my route. And I believe if we’re meant to cross paths, then we cross paths. And if not, then they’re still my brothers and sisters and I wish you nothing but love and blessings and the best life possible. But yeah, the link is the best way to get a hold of me because I’m a word-of-mouth guy.

Hal Elrod: Yeah, and I can include this in the show notes, in the email, but what’s the URL? I know it’s Titans Gate, something, I remember because I’ve booked there.

Jason Ward: Yeah, let me see if I can find that for you. I apologize. I know it. It sounds really bad. I just usually send the link. Let me see here.

Jeremy Reisig: I got it for you.

Jason Ward: Oh, you do?

Jeremy Reisig: No, I don’t. You know what’s funny? I don’t even send people to an actual website. I literally send them to your square.site. I’m not even going to say the address. When I’m like, you should check out, Jason, if someone says, I have a challenge or I’ve been dealing with something, I’m like, you should go there. Like, what’s the website? I’m like, I have no idea. Just go to this link.

Jason Ward: It’s a lot of words there. I don’t know how to quite say that out appropriately, but…

Hal Elrod: All right, I’ll put, just text that to me, Jason.

Jeremy Reisig: We’ll hyperlink it.

Hal Elrod: Yeah, I’ll hyperlink it in the email and in the show notes, so yeah, people can find it there. Yeah, you are kind of secret. How many people have you worked with over the last 38 years? Do you have any count of that?

Jason Ward: I mean, I work in about 55 countries, so I have an international calendar and then I have the US calendar, which you guys have seen. I think I did the math. I was on average of like 2,300 people a year is usually what I tend to read. Yeah, it’s quite a bit actually. Yeah. It’s a lot.

Hal Elrod: Wow, that’s 2,300 a year. Okay, so it’s roughly 80,000 people.

Jason Ward: So, disconnecting is super important.

Hal Elrod: Yeah. What’d you say, Jeremy?

Jeremy Reisig: 80,000 people.

Hal Elrod: One more time, Jeremy. I missed it.

Jeremy Reisig: Almost 80– well, if I did 2,300 times 30 years, it’s 87,000 people. So, let’s just say that a couple years, you did a little less, nice round number, over 80,000 people one-on-one.

Hal Elrod: Yeah.

Jason Ward: Yeah, one on one.

Hal Elrod: And without a website, without social media, without a PR campaign, it’s just you’re healing people and then they’re referring. It’s like me and Jeremy, right? We’re just recommending. I recommend you to Jeremy. He reminds me of you. We’re back and forth. Well, before we wrap, any closing thoughts? Any closing message? I mean, you’re a very wise person.

Jason Ward: Thank you.

Hal Elrod: I like listening to you. And so, yeah. What’s the last message that you’d want to leave with our listeners?

Jason Ward: A couple things if I could, one, I would like for folks to know prevention is the best form of medicine. We don’t just stop drinking in a couple months when we think about it, right? Or I’m going to start slowing down smoking on the New Year’s. Start putting it in action, right? Even if it’s baby steps. Diet, exercise, water, sleep, the basics. People think you got to spend thousands of dollars on acupuncture and hyperbaric chambers and all these supplements. And I go, just start with the basics, food, water, sleep, and move your body. If we can just start there, the rest of it’s going to be so much easier.

Secondly, it’s perception. I work a lot with emotional trauma healing, right? And people like myself have had big traumas and PTSDs and former perception, right? Was that mom and dad? Was that the bully? Or were they teachers with ugly lessons? Then your perception that things really changes and not, why does all the bad stuff had to have happened to me? It’s, I had to go through that bad to understand the balance of the good because if everything was good, then how would you know what’s good? It would just be.

So, I think prevention, doing the basics of self-care, getting that actually right, taking the time to perfect it to the best of your ability and perception. Perception is key. The perception of no one’s right or wrong in their faith. Everyone’s brothers and sisters on this planet. And if we could treat each other like that, maybe it’s a fantasy, maybe it’s a dream. But I just think the world would be such a cooler place and everyone would get along, right? And the world would just be beautiful and everyone’s out there trying to help each other. No starving, no homelessness, all these things I think would come to a minimum.

And also, understand that people that do work like I do, everyone rows their boat a little different. It doesn’t mean that they see mirages, doesn’t mean that they hear voices. There are some genuine intuitives out there. A lot of them are good friends of mine that really are just here to help. They don’t care about fancy websites or fancy social media. And again, it’s perception. Yes, there is an alternative approach to taking care of yourself when all the other modalities of the world tell you that they can’t find nothing. Nothing’s wrong. Don’t give up. So, love yourself enough to keep going.

Hal Elrod: Awesome, brother. Well, Jason, you are a soul brother. As you’re talking, I nod my head and I believe the same. I believe that we’re all part of the human family. We’re all brothers and sisters, that the belief systems that we have are just based on what we were exposed to in terms of information or influences from other people. And ultimately, we have so much more in common than we will ever have different as human and spiritual beings.

So, what I’m going to do, if anybody is listening and going, ah, how do I get in touch with Jason? I don’t have a link, I don’t have anything. I’ll find out your link from you, Jason, and I’ll link it in the show notes. And if you’re listening right now, go to MiracleMorning.com/594. This is Episode 594, so MiracleMorning.com/594. Scroll down and I will have in the show notes the link to be able to book an appointment with Jason. Well, Jason, Jeremy, I love you both, my brothers. I’m so grateful that we– this exceeded my expectations, man. I’m really, really grateful. Jason, I appreciate you so much.

Jason Ward: Thank you for having me. Love and respect to you both. You guys are really good souls, good birds on this planet, and it’s a pleasure to call you guys my brother. So, thank you for having me. I really do appreciate you. Thank you.

Hal Elrod: You got it. And brother, I think you should do way more podcasts. I’m going to put that bird in your ear and make that recommendation. I think a lot of people could benefit from just hearing your philosophies on life, not to mention, of course, working with you directly. So, all right, goal achievers, I love you so much. Thank you for tuning in today, and if you want to book a call with Jason, go to MiracleMorning.com/594. You’ll have to search through the show notes and I’ll put it toward the top so that you can find that link. And I love you. Talk to you next week.

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